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Urban Arena is a podcast about creating just and sustainable cities. This month we're talking with Rafael Calado about FabLabs. Ian is joined by special guest podcaster Lucia Di Paola for the trip to Lisbon's best FabLab. Rafael Calado is the Programme and Operations Manager FabLab Lisboa. An architect by trade, he also co-founded Repair Café Lisboa and BioHacking Group Lisboa 2017.